"Yeah, no. "It's not a minimums bust if you have any of the required runway elements in sight before you descend. Suggest you do a little searching for DG's past history/reputation. Nevertheless, RIP to Brittney and condolences to her family and friends. "Your nonsense responses like "false" with zero explanation demonstrates that you have no actual idea what TERPS, an obstacle clearance surface, and approach minimums are. This information is added by users of ASN. The plane is resting upside down pointing towards the probable point of impact about 90 feet away, with about a 190 degree counter clockwise rotation and flip supporting the left wing strike probably. Must have been one hell of a steam cloud. steam coalescing from 6 stacks into one plume, per NTSB report. All major components of the airplane remained on the rooftop. Ceilings were 1600 feet higher than minimums. The pilot did not bust minimums nor was this anywhere near an approach to minimums. Her distraught father, Jim Bob Infanger (right), has said " Brittney knew the area well and flew to Burley International Airport all the time". You can use the controls at the top to stop at 14:31:00 and have a look:http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/radar/displayRad.php?icao=KSFX&prod=CREF&bkgr=color&endDate=20220413&endTime=15&duration=1(Link will show that look-back until seven days from 4/13, so copy images before they are no longer accessible if of interest.). The altimeter at the destination airport was 29.97, so the pressure altitude correction would be +50 feet, that combined with FlightAware's rounding error and a +/- 75 foot allowed altimeter variance means the pilot may not have busted the MDA on the first approach as was implied. Strange things happen when you get tired. "Oh yes, you got me there. When I look at Google Earth and that smoke stack it obvious it was only a matter of time before that stack met a plane trying to make the runway. Your nonsense responses like "false" with zero explanation demonstrates that you have no actual idea what TERPS, an obstacle clearance surface, and approach minimums are. The dope pilot flew away from the airport for some time after declaring an emergency. A couple sleeping in the house narrowly . Chunks of ice breaking off may be sucked into the engine and cause structural damage. She has participated in eight trans-continental air races, and together, they have flown to Alaska, Quebec, Belize, the Florida Keys and 2000 miles around Australia. The controller then instructed the pilot to execute the published missed approached and to report established [in the hold] at IREME, and to expect the same approach. 7. Burley Airfield should either stop 020 approaches, and/or the "Gem State Potato Processing Plant" should run a pipe up from the Snake River to condense and recover its steam inside the factory, and reposition that isolated lethal stack. Wonder who got paid off to approve that nonsense building permit. There is a parallel expressway, I-20, beyond runway 24 - at that time of day it would have been crammed with bumper to bumper rush hour morning traffic with parallel lines of red and white lights, little dots repeating perfectly. Regardless of the precise reasons for her own accident, the FAA, Burley Airfield authority, and the board of the "Gem State Potato Processing Plant" have very serious questions to answer. Survivors. Her life was extremely valuable to her many friends and family. The steam cloud has little to no lift. Sure, reported airport weather can be different than what you experience on approach, but it is quite unlikely that less than 1 mile off airport, the ceilings dropped from 2100 AGL to 200 AGL and visibility halved from 2SM to 1SM to keep the pilot in IMC when the airport weather was trending in the opposite direction. Maybe she saw the snake river and runway but didn't see the stack? Not sure if runway lights would be on, since it was 8:32 AM MDT with sunrise an hour and a half earlier at 6:56 AM. "blame it on the steam cloud" assigns no responsibility, no liability. If anyone has photo/video evidence to the contrary, please share.https://youtu.be/fNIsBWj6nok?t=149, Excellent video, probably should cue up for 2:20 and tell folks to set speed to .25 because starting at 2:29 only allowed about two seconds of viewing before it's off to the races. If the visibility was .5 SM better than reported, then the pilot would have had approximately 35 seconds from breaking out to see and avoid the tower. Absolutely correct, our operation needed to improve its pilot evaluation, vetting and training. Location: New England. Skydive Kauai Cessna 182 crash NTSB final report May 13th, 2018 - The NTSB has released the final report on the . Not every pilot/operator does so, especially if its not required by the SOP.2. Would the FAA have allowed the company to mount a strobe on the top of that stack, or would it have interfered with the sight picture for a pilot on the glideslope for a landing? Lack of hours? The plant releases huge quantities of hot water vapour through stacks, (industrial chimneys). You are on your own to figure out an appropriate descent angle to keep you clear of the numerous hazardous obstacles on final. 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Maybe Burley and the state of ID can get a 90% grant to build new from feds $3 billion in new funds for airports under Prez Biden and the Dem's passed infrastructure law. If I have it wrong, please correct me. The entire left wing leading edge from tip to the square-cornered root is unblemished when you look at the 00:07 to 00:12 second close-up view in the Kameraone scene video. Runway 20 has one. )Would a C208 pilot purposely establish/maintain the almost 50 knot slower accident approach speed after encountering the plume on the first approach? advisory GS, that would have put her 50-60' below MDA. Yesterday's accident was very unfortunate. It was hands down the seat belt and shoulder harness and a hell of a lot of luck. I highly doubt a certified pilot who clearly was enjoying flying out of SMO would want to close it. You MUST ditch with full flaps and almost stall it right before impact with the water. This means the potato plant created artificial IFR conditions. The National Transportation Safety Board Aviation (NTSB) Accident Preliminary report said poor weather and flying low near a mountain may have impacted the Kekaha airplane crash that happened on . The obstacle database shows a red light on the stack, but photocell would likely keep it off after sunrise.Watch the Kameraone.com scene video in comments further down, it helps visualize snow fall effects that were still intermittently occurring after ladder trucks arrived. In the video, the pilot clearly was trying to extend the flight path as much as possible to the very last few seconds. Many of these pilots require a certain amount of 'hand holding' before being turned loose on their own. That full sequence of reports showing 6, 2 1/2, 1 1/2, 1. Also the color of the building itself? Kathryn's Report: Most Read All Time. Kathryn's Report: Cessna 560 Citation XLS+, N560AR: Fatal accident occurred September 02, 2021 near Robertson Field Airport (4B8), Plainville, Hartford County . A review of air traffic control (ATC) communication with the pilot revealed the approach controller issued the pilot the current altimeter setting and verified that the pilot had the current weather and notices to airmen reports for BYI. All GA pilots should know that a plume of steam vapour and condensate is a concentrated convective cell storm. Newer editions of the Cessna Caravan contain updated glass instrumentation with Garmin G600 or G1000 systems and weeping wing TKS ice prevention systems.Please do not assume that classic rookie pilot mistakes are at play here. Mayday, mayday, mayday!Those were the words of an U.S. Air Force F-16 pilot, seconds after the jet collided with a private Cessna over Moncks Corner on July 7, 2015.The National Transportation . For a moment let's adjust your pass-over clearance results of 63' and 73' up by that extra 16 feet to get 79' and 89' pass-over clearances while pretending that the FAA database numbers are spot on (read on for the surprise! Messages that harass, abuse or threaten other persons, such as threats to cause bodily harm, or that contain obscene or otherwise objectionable content, may result in the loss of your posting privileges. )The record again, now with tolerance codes highlighted:16-036731 O US ID HEYBURN 42 33 05.92N 113 45 34.15W STACK 1 00100 04256 R 4 D P 2016ANM01617OE A 2017285For stack 16-036731, code "D" means that the declared accuracy of the recorded vertical information in AGL and MSL is +/- 50 feet, which for a 100' stack is an absurdly large tolerance. But to go below the MDA prior to 1.1 miles from the runway kinda busts the approach. Hiring requires vetting and training. and both pilots followed provided vertical guidance as required for Part 121 aircraft even if the procedure results in a visual approach? Succinct. Kathryn s Report Cessna 525C Citation CJ4 N614SB Fatal May 13th, 2018 - Cessna 525C Citation . Advertisement. Louisiana are three of the apparent victims in a plane crash in Lefthand Canyon west of Boulder on July 17. The left wing shows most of the damage where it connects to the fuselage. I'm guessing she was tired and flying in bad conditions, with a wall of steam from those chimneys and a roof cleared of snow by heat, and she mistook the roof for the extended threshold. During that last phase, the Caravan was in a nose-high descent. If you understood how preliminary reports record meteorological information in the report format, you would have looked at the time of the observation, as recorded on page 2 in the "Meteorological Information and Flight Plan" block:Observation Facility, Elevation: KBYI,4143 ft mslObservation Time: 08:10 LocalIt should be obvious now that the calculations you made used an observation from 22 minutes prior to the accident. That having been said, in the post-crash video it appears that the aircraft may have clipped that safety cage about 30 feet below the top of the chimney/stack.As for the plant, since that large chimney is less than 200 feet (14 CFR 77), any lighting would have been voluntary (AC70/7460-1K 01FEB2007). She sounds like a bright individual gone too soon. My guess is in the cold they are creating their own little obscuring weather system. If the plume broadly affected approaches, this wouldn't have been the first occurrence. The pilot was transported to a local hospital where their condition remains unknown. There is still data needed to determine amount of fuel in tanks. Gray light is the worst, and that sort of snow just is impossible to see through clearly. There were five aboard, the Private rated pilot and four passengers. Burley is considering a new airport location:https://www.idahostatejournal.com/news/local/burley-ready-to-move-forward-with-new-airport-project-asks-counties-for-support/article_5a0c977c-3015-5dec-bd16-35979dfa8cdf.html, This is probably the hardest commercial flying job around Pilot is the third most dangerous job.Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 58.9https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/27/the-10-most-dangerous-jobs-in-america-according-to-bls-data.htmlRenowned airshow performer Eric Beard also died as a freight dog pilot.https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20060108&slug=webpilot08YouTube https://youtu.be/LivNwDABHdwNTSB https://generalaviationnews.com/2006/09/22/ntsb-cites-pilot-error-in-january-airpac-crash/. The location where the witness was viewing from is a significant factor for interpreting what is reported as seen. On 3 October 2021, a Romanian private plane crashed into a building in San Donato Milanese, Lombardy, Italy. At some time before noon on August 7, 2020, a Turbo Cessna 210 took off from Roosevelt, Utah, for a fair-weather daytime flight. This issue was resolved by the pandemic, which put the company out of business. Precision matters to actual pilots. The crash is under investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board and the Federal Aviation Administration. I have never heard of a Caravan having enough turbulence to unport the fuel and cause a flameout.Thoughts? Minter was elected to the Santa Monica City Council in 1955 and served as mayor from 1963-1967. KBYI has a 3.7 degree glidepath for obstacles, including the plant and the railroad brige, which would put her at 66.7 feet over the threshold and about 108 feet over the end of the displaced threshold. From the many news sources From the ntsb, it was the steam cloud:"According to a witness, located about one quarter mile away, he first heard, then observed the airplane descend out of the clouds then immediately went into a steam cloud, which was produced from a set of six smokestacks located on the same roof. Looking at obstacle markings on the BYI RW20 approach plate, it is interesting to compare to ALL of the HEYBURN-associated obstacles that exist in the current 16-ID.dat obstacle database.Notably, the 4179' obstruction shown by the river at 7th avenue in the inset runway detail of the plate is not in the database, appears to be Gossner's Magic Valley Chalet based on low height and location. But I noticed something. Cessna 172 Skyhawk, N6238D, Skylane Aviation LLC: Fatal accident occurred March 26, 2016 at Yeager Airport (KCRW), Charleston, Kanawha County, West Virginia Aviation Accident Final Report - National Transportation Safety Board: https://app.ntsb.gov/pdf NTSB Identification: ERA16FA141 14 CFR . The PT-6 has a world wide reputation for reliability and resilience even under adverse atmospheric conditions. Silos? Oh boy Couple years ago we hired an attractive young lady, a flight instructor what does her looks have to do with being a pilot? You just get one needle for lateral guidance, some step down altitude restrictions and an MDA. The aircrafts surfaces will be substantially sub-zero, and the droplets snap-freeze on them, further cutting lift. It is believed the plane was doing a flyover of the camp when the incident occurred. Touchdown elevation is 4,152'. Maybe it was a slow day at the Tater plant, but the "plume of steam vapor" from the stacks shown in the following aviation video seems fairly small and underwhelming. Among the victims were American singer and actress Aaliyah and members of her entourage, including a hairdresser, her . So much hate over something trivial sad that so many in our society have succumbed to this level. I venture that your confident swagger and language will be forever humbled. Take the time and money to buy sim time to replay the weather and the two approaches with the missed approach scenario in question in a Cessna Caravan sim. first opened in 1940, and publicly-owned by the CITY OF BURLEY, ID. If the obstacle surface allowed it, they would have put in an RNAV LPV approach to this airport instead of an LNAV, which would have been just as good if not better than an ILS. Sunrise was at 6:56.She would have been accustomed to crossing the waterway with the railroad bridge in view on the right side during the last moments in the normal approach to the RW20 threshold.There is nothing to see that is even remotely similar to the waterway and RR bridge combination before reaching the tater plant. Quickest way to get there Cheapest option Distance between. I read all the comments. The best option for them is to create an entirely new airport in a different location, something they need FAA funding for, and to run the airport the City of Burley is seeking to establish an airport authority.From over a year ago: https://www.kmvt.com/2021/02/26/the-fate-of-the-burley-municipal-airport-continues-to-be-uncertain/. As she descended she may have lost sight of the runway. Freight repositioning on ground after divert adds cost, hits schedule.3. Brittney Infanger was a highly skilled and trusted pilot. It sounds like your operation needs to improve its pilot evaluation, vetting, and training. no lift in warm/wet steam. i blame it on the steam cloud. Kathryn's Report (kathrynsreport.com) Kathryn's Report: This Aviation Blog Is Permanently Open (kathrynsreport.com) Edit, as Eman said, "permanently closed for a little while" , the entry now says permanently open. It is the end of rational dialogue to follow the leftist crap who are "educating" my grandchildren. You make a good point regarding the stacks based upon Google maps. When you look at Google maps, it's hard to reject the possibility, given poor visibility, that she mistook the roof for the threshold and dove for it. Anonymous Wednesday, December 21, . The plane's pilot also died. Do you describe all your male pilots based on their looks? Yes, sorry about the typo, runway 20, not 30. 0. She went on to graduate from ATP Flight School in Mesa, Arizona in 2019. 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